VGC 2017 Speed Tiers

The standard ruleset for VGC 2017 has been announced, and with all these new pokemon to work around, it’s more important than ever to fine-tune your own team’s EVs to outrun the right threats. While together they look a bit like a reference table in a mathematics textbook, Speed tiers are what drive turns in Pokémon. Knowing whether your Pokémon is going to move before or after its opponents is essential to winning battles and avoiding unnecessary damage. This list should help you get a feel for the relative Speed of each Pokémon and what nearby threats are faster or slower than them, thereby making it easier for you to construct your team.

Here are some helpful hints about Speed before the table:

  • Discounting the bonuses and penalties of a Pokémon’s Nature, the difference between a 0 IV in Speed and a 31 IV is 15 points in Speed and the difference between 0 EVs and 252 EVs in Speed is 32 points with an odd IV or 31 with an even IV.
  • Choice Scarf boosts Speed by one level (*1.5). Tailwind boosts Speed by two levels (*2). Thunder Wave reduces speed to 1/2. Icy Wind reduces Speed by one level (2/3). Iron Ball reduces Speed by two levels (2/4).
  • A Pokémon’s Speed is always a whole number. Like most of the math in Pokémon, Speed calculations round down, so a Pokémon with 101 Speed would have 151 Speed when holding a Choice Scarf, not 151.5 or 152.
  • The turn order of Pokémon is decided before a turn starts, with the exception of Mega Evolution mechanics (which aren’t particularly relevant in VGC 2017 anyway). If you use a move that changes a Pokémon’s Speed level (like Icy Wind) you retain the Speed value you had before the turn started until the next turn. The only exception to this rule is the move Quash.
  • There is a 50/50 chance of each Pokémon moving first if two Pokémon have the same Speed. This is some of how Speed Tiers got their name, though Game Freak has enjoyed putting Pokémon at a much greater variety of Speeds in recent iterations of the game compared to the older games, when any popular Pokémon were tied at base speeds like 100.
  • In the tables below, a boost level of 1 typically signifies either a Choice Scarf or an actual boost in the Speed stat, either by Speed Boost or a move like Dragon Dance or Quiver Dance. A boost level of 2 signifies either two turns of Speed Boost or a weather-related boost. You can check exactly how a Pokemon has been boosted in the Remarks column.

Every Pokémon listed below has either 0 or 252 EVs in Speed and a 31 or 0 IV in Speed. In real life, you’ll probably see more variance than this, so what a list like this really does is help you find absolutes: these are the fastest and slowest Pokémon can be with the given Natures. Since taking unnecessary risks tends to be the fastest way to lose in Pokémon, you can use this information when planning your team to make sure that your Pokémon will move before important threats that can knock your Pokémon out, or if that is unreasonable or impossible, to know when defeat could be a turn away and you need to switch out to a more appropriate counter to fend it off.

This list can also help you figure out how much Speed you really need: if all the things you want to counter only require your Pokémon to invest 100 EVs in Speed, you’re probably going to want to invest the rest of your EVs defensively instead of running more Speed EVs that might not accomplish very much.

Max Speed StatPokémonNatureEVsBoostBase SpeedRemarks
360Lycanroc-MiddayPositive2522112Sand Rush
356Alolan RaichuPositive2522110Surge Surfer
328Lycanroc-MiddayNeutral2522112Sand Rush
300GolduckPositive252285Swift Swim
294SharpedoNeutral252295Speed Boost
290DrifblimPositive252280Unburden
289RibombeePositive2521124Quiver Dance
284LilligantNeutral252290Chlorophyll
274GolduckNeutral252285Swift Swim
268PoliwrathPositive252270Swift Swim
267TaurosPositive2521110Choice Scarf
264DrifblimNeutral252280Unburden
264StoutlandNeutral252280Sand Rush
264RibombeeNeutral2521124Quiver Dance
256Alolan SandslashPositive252265Slush Rush
250SalamencePositive2521100Choice Scarf
244PoliwrathNeutral252270Swift Swim
241Tapu LelePositive252195Choice Scarf
234Alolan SandslashNeutral252265Slush Rush
234Porygon-Z, LilligantPositive252190Choice Scarf
234ExeggutorPositive252255Chlorophyll
231GarchompNeutral2521102Choice Scarf
228SalamenceNeutral2521100Choice Scarf
225Kommo-oPositive252185Dragon Dance
223PheromosaPositive2520151
222XurkitreePositive252 183Choice Scarf / Beast Boost
220Tapu LeleNeutral252195Choice Scarf
220SharpedoNeutral252195Speed Boost
219GyaradosPositive252181Dragon Dance
217Dragonite, Braviary, Passimian, Masquerain, StoutlandPositive252180Choice Scarf
216KrookodileNeutral252192Choice Scarf
213Porygon-Z, LilligantNeutral252190Choice Scarf
208SmearglePositive252175Choice Scarf
205Kommo-oNeutral252185Dragon Dance
204ExeggutorNeutral252255Chlorophyll
203PheromosaNeutral2520151
202XurkitreeNeutral252 183Choice Scarf
201Politoed, CloysterPositive252170Choice Scarf
200Crobat, Aerodactyl, Jolteon, Tapu KokoPositive2520130
200DrifblimNeutral0 EVs280Unburden
199GyaradosNeutral252181Dragon Dance
198Dragonite, Braviary, Passimian, Masquerain, StoutlandNeutral252180Choice Scarf
195TalonflamePositive2520126
194WeavilePositive2520125
193RibombeePositive2520124
189Alakazam, Minior-CorePositive2520120
185SalazzlePositive2520117
184WhimsicottPositive2520116
184Sylveon, MagnezonePositive252160Choice Scarf
183Starmie, Alolan PersianPositive2520115
182Crobat, Aerodactyl, Jolteon, Tapu KokoNeutral2520130
180Lycanroc-MiddayPositive2520112
178TalonflameNeutral2520126
178Gengar, Raichu, Espeon, Tauros, Froslass, Alolan Raichu, Alolan DugtrioPositive2520110
177WeavileNeutral2520125
177KartanaPositive2520109
177Alolan NinetalesPositive2520109
176RibombeeNeutral2520124
172MismagiusPositive2520105
172Alakazam, Minior-CoreNeutral2520120
171PheromosaNeutral00151
170NihilegoPositive2520103
169SalazzleNeutral2520117
169GarchompPositive2520102
168CarracostaNeutral252232Swift Swim
167Starmie, Alolan PersianNeutral2520115
167Salamence, Ninetales, ComfeyPositive2520100
164Lycanroc-MiddayNeutral2520112
162Togedemaru, MimikyuPositive252096
162Gengar, Raichu, Espeon, Tauros, Froslass, Alolan Raichu, Alolan DugtrioNeutral2520110
161Sharpedo, Arcanine, Leafeon, Silvally, Tapu LelePositive252095
161Alolan NinetalesNeutral2520109
161KartanaNeutral2520109
159OricorioPositive252093
158Krookodile, BruxishPositive252092
157MismagiusNeutral2520105
156Lucario, Kangaskhan, Porygon-Z, LilligantPositive252090
155NihilegoNeutral2520103
154GarchompNeutral2520102
152Salamence, Ninetales, ComfeyNeutral2520100
150Pinsir, Kommo-o, Tapu FiniPositive252085
148Togedemaru, MimikyuNeutral252096
148XurkitreePositive252083
147Sharpedo, Arcanine, Leafeon, Silvally, Tapu LeleNeutral252095
147Lycanroc-MidnightPositive252082
146GyaradosPositive252081
146TalonflameNeutral00126
145Dragonite, Braviary, Passimian, Masquerain, Stoutland, DrifblimPositive252080
145OricorioNeutral252093
144RibombeeNeutral00124
144BuzzwolePositive252079
144VanilluxePositive252079
144Krookodile, BruxishNeutral252092
142Lucario, Kangaskhan, Porygon-Z, LilligantNeutral252090
139Smeargle, Tapu BuluPositive252075
137SalazzleNeutral00117
137Pinsir, Kommo-o, Tapu FiniNeutral252085
136TsareenaPositive252072
136WhimsicottNeutral00116
135XurkitreeNeutral252083
135HonchkrowPositive252071
134Metagross, Politoed, Cloyster, Poliwrath, DecidueyePositive252070
134Lycanroc-MidnightNeutral252082
133Gyarados, MiloticNeutral252081
132Dragonite, Goodra, Braviary, Glalie, Passimian, Masquerain, Stoutland, DrifblimNeutral252080
132Lycanroc-MiddayNeutral00112
131VanilluxeNeutral252079
131BuzzwoleNeutral252079
129KartanaNeutral00109
128Scizor, Pelipper, Alolan SandslashPositive252065
127Tapu BuluNeutral252075
124TsareenaNeutral252072
124CelesteelaPositive252061
123Sylveon, Magnezone, Clefable, Lapras, Incineroar, Primarina, Toucannon, Bewear, Oranguru, MiniorPositive252060
123HonchkrowNeutral252071
123NihilegoNeutral00103
122Metagross, Politoed, Cloyster, Poliwrath, DecidueyeNeutral252070
120Salamence, Ninetales, ComfeyNeutral00100
117Scizor, Glaceon, Komala, Pelipper, Alolan SandslashNeutral252065
116Togedemaru, MimikyuNeutral0096
115Arcanine, Silvally, Tapu LeleNeutral0095
113CelesteelaNeutral252061
113OricorioNeutral0093
112Krookodile, BruxishNeutral0092
112Sylveon, Magnezone, Clefable, Lapras, Incineroar, Primarina, Toucannon, Bewear, Oranguru, MiniorNeutral252060
111MurkrowNeutral0091
110KangaskhanNeutral0090
108WhimsicottNegative0 EVs, 0 IV0116
105Pinsir, Kommo-o, Tapu FiniNeutral0085
103XurkitreeNeutral0083
102Lycanroc-MidnightNeutral0082
101Gyarados, MiloticNeutral0081
100Dragonite, Goodra, Braviary, Mandibuzz, Glalie, Drifblim, Passimian, MasquerainNeutral0080
99VanilluxeNeutral0079
99BuzzwoleNeutral0079
95Klefki, Tapu BuluNeutral0075
92TsareenaNeutral0072
91HonchkrowNeutral0071
90Metagross, Politoed, Cloyster, Poliwrath, DecidueyeNeutral0070
87LanturnNeutral0067
85Scizor, Vaporeon, Glaceon, Komala, Pelipper, Alolan SandslashNeutral0065
85KangaskhanNegative0 EVs, 0 IV090
84CarracostaNeutral252032
81MisdreavusNegative0 EVs, 0 IV085
81CelesteelaNeutral0061
80Sylveon, Porygon2, Magnezone, Clefable, Lapras, Incineroar, Primarina, Toucannon, Bewear, Oranguru, MiniorNeutral0060
76TrevenantNeutral0056
75Machamp, Blissey, ExeggutorNeutral0055
72Smeargle, Tapu BuluNegative0 EVs, 0 IV075
70Sableye, Hariyama, Chansey, Muk, Alolan MukNeutral0050
67Metagross, Politoed, Cloyster, Poliwrath, DecidueyeNegative0 EVs, 0 IV070
65Marowak, Wigglytuff, Gumshoos, Lurantis, Alolan Exeggutor, Alolan Golem, Alolan MarowakNeutral0045
63GuzzlordNeutral0043
63Vikavolt, CrabominableNeutral0043
63Scizor, Glaceon, Komala, Pelipper, Alolan SandslashNegative0 EVs, 0 IV065
62AraquanidNeutral0042
60Golisopod, DhelmiseNeutral0040
59GastrodonNeutral0039
58Sylveon, Porygon2, Magnezone, Clefable, Lapras, Incineroar, Primarina, Toucannon, Bewear, Oranguru, MiniorNegative0 EVs, 0 IV060
54Machamp, ExeggutorNegative0 EVs, 0 IV055
54TrevenantNegative0 EVs, 0 IV056
52CarracostaNeutral0032
50TurtonatorNeutral0036
49Sableye, Hariyama, Alolan MukNegative0 EVs, 0 IV050
49Toxapex, Mudsdale, PallosandNeutral0035
46CarracostaNegative0032
45Marowak, Wigglytuff, Gumshoos, Lurantis, Alolan Exeggutor, Alolan Golem, Alolan MarowakNegative0 EVs, 0 IV045
45GigalithNeutral0025
43GuzzlordNegative0 EVs, 0 IV043
43Vikavolt, CrabominableNegative0 EVs, 0 IV043
42AraquanidNegative0 EVs, 0 IV042
41DrampaNeutral0 EVs, 0 IV036
40Golisopod, DhelmiseNegative0 EVs, 0 IV040
39GastrodonNegative0 EVs, 0 IV039
36Turtonator, DrampaNegative0 EVs, 0 IV036
36Toxapex, Mudsdale, PallosandNegative0 EVs, 0 IV035
33CarracostaNegative0 EVs, 0 IV032
31Slowbro, Slowking, Snorlax, Parasect, Wishiwashi-School, ShiinoticNegative0 EVs, 0 IV030
27GigalithNegative0 EVs, 0 IV025
25PyukumukuNeutral005
22TorkoalNegative0 EVs, 0 IV020
9PyukumukuNegative0 EVs, 0 IV05
  • Alex

    I was disappointed when Nugget Bridge didn’t have a VGC ’17 speed tier list, but this helps immensely!

  • Okamikazi

    Where’s scyther? theres scizor, but no scyther. yes i searched.

    • Level 51

      Sorry for the slightly late response—this list only includes Pokemon which are likely to be at least somewhat viable. Since Scyther has pretty much nothing going for it, it is an intended omission from this list.

  • NoShayminTryin

    Is Level 1 Smeargle possible? I thought the new format levels everything up to Level 50 automatically.

    • You’re correct, this table was made prior to that particular rule being announced. Thanks for pointing this out, we’ll remove it.

  • Siux

    Drampa: Neutral/ 0 IVS/ 0 EVS = 41 speed
    Why have 50 speed?

  • Alex

    How are you supposed to get regular ninetales and exeggutor? I notice both of those on there and that kinda bugs me. Especially since chlorophyll exeggutor + drought ninetales would be a threat to prepare for, yet doesn’t exist in the meta because its illegal……

    • Alex

      As well as regular Muk and Raichu

      • At the moment these Pokemon are not legal for VGC 17. but once Pokemon Bank is out some of them will be available, and hence we have included them in this list. If they are found not to be legal, we will remove them.

  • ChP

    I don’t know if I’m going crazy or not, but I can’t seem to find Stoutland anywhere – surely with sand rush it’d be somewhere up there.

    • Thanks for letting us know, Stoutland has been added to the table!

  • gmaster

    i can’t find golduck here :/

    • Jiwa

      Golduck has now been added, thanks for letting us know

  • Ben

    +1 tapu lele is missing for modest and timid

    • Thanks for letting us know. We’ve added +1 Tapu Lele to the table now.

  • InfamousChub

    Xurkitree cannot boost its speed with Beast Boost; Max Speed is 148 while Min SpA is 160. That’s using a Jolly Nature as well. Beast Boost will always boost SpA.

    • Bad Dawg ✝

      It actually can if Power Split is used. Power split bypasses Beast Boost, so technically it can be boosted under extremely rare circumstances

      • InfamousChub

        Hahahhahaha! I didn’t even THINK of that. Nice.

        Quick question, does Power Split/Guard Split stay altered after switches?

        • Bad Dawg ✝

          I do not know. Neither Bulbapedia nor Serebii say that…

  • Staal

    Drifblim after the unburden boost is missing

  • Bad Dawg ✝

    Chlorophyll Exeggutor is illegal this gen. Also, you should add +1 Oricorio and +1 Pheromosa, as well as -1 Snorlax after Curse

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  • pokecatcher

    scarf pheromosa is missing

  • Person

    Rampardos, Bastiodon and Archeops are not here

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